TimeLine firmware public beta 1.42

TimeLine firmware updateWe always work hard to improve the experience our customers have with our products. We have been working on adding a few new features and improvements to TimeLine.

We are releasing this version as a public beta to allow additional testing in many different real world usage situations. This is not a required updateโ€” please feel free to continue using your current version. Should you choose to update your TimeLine you are always allowed the option to roll back.

Update instructions are included as a PDF with the download. If you have any problems updating, please take a look at these updating troubleshooting tips. ๐Ÿ™‚


What’s New:

  • MIDI Clock Sweep (MC SWP) global parameter:
    • We’ve added the option to keep or remove delay pitch artifacts when changing TAP tempo from external MIDI Clock source.
  • MIDI Clock Reset (MC RST) global parameter:
    • Now, you have the option to re-sync TimeLine back to an external MIDI clock source tempo after manually tapping in a new tempo or sweeping the Time knob on TimeLine.
  • Added new MIDI Commands for looper:
    • We’ve added two new absolute MIDI commands for Reverse and Half Speed looper controls. Reverse = 103
  • Changed MIDI Preset Recall Behavior
    • In older code revisions, recalling presets via MIDI automatically altered the bypass state of the preset to ON. Now, if your preset is bypassed before you send a new MIDI preset program change, the new preset recalled will remain bypassed.
  • Improved Swell Delay triggering:
    • We’ve made improvements to the way the swell is triggered when using the Swell Delay machine.
  • Global Tap Tempo per preset:
    • You can now turn Global Tap Tempo on or off per preset. Useful when you have some presets that require Global Tap and others that don’t.
  • “SUCCESS” indicator when installing factory/user presets:
    • Now, when a factory or user preset SysEx file is loaded into the TimeLine, the LED will display “SUCCESS” indicating a successful file transfer.
  • Preset Dump:
    • We’ve added a Preset Dump function in the Global menu. This is a great way to make a backup of your TimeLine presets.

What’s Fixed:

  • Improved looper design to remove audible ticks when controlling looper reverse and half speed functions with a MIDI controller
  • Fixed and enabled Global TAP per preset feature. You can now turn Global TAP Tempo on and off per preset. Useful when you have some presets that require Global TAP and others that don’t.
  • Fixed an issue caused when using the looper with the pattern delay machine
  • Kill Dry function now kills dry signal when TimeLine is bypassed
  • Fixed audible glitch in spillover from dBucket to Dual delay machine when in parallel configuration
  • Resolved an issue caused when utilizing the feedback loop while TimeLine is bypassed

If you come across any issues with this beta release, please email us at support@strymon.net. Thanks very much! ๐Ÿ™‚


About Ethan Tufts
Ethan Tufts Ethan Tufts is Strymonโ€™s marketing guy and noisemaker. He spends most of his time using loopers and drenching everything in delay. He has owned 29 cars and is actively looking for his 30th.

71 Responses

  1. Zach D says:

    Glad to see more Midi features. Still would like to see Midi clock out though! ๐Ÿ™‚

  2. Erick says:

    Pretty awesome. Now, I just need a MIDI/USB cable to update. Thanks for this update.

  3. shaowen says:

    Thanks for the update!

    Noticed that Global Tap Tempo behaviour seems to have changed. When tapping in a delay based on quarter notes, the tempo translates over when another dotted 8th delay is selected (i.e. ms/bpm stays the same). However, when the original or another quarter note delay is subsequently selected, the tempo is changed (ms increased/bpm decreased).

    Is this a bug?

  4. Avi says:

    Like Shaowen, I’ve also noticed that Global tap tempo doesn’t seem to be working properly when a 1/4 note delay preset is selected. I can tap the 1/4 delay preset, switch to a dotted eighth preset, and the BPM holds. If I switch back to the 1/4 preset, the BPM is decreased.
    If I tap the dotted 8th delay preset, and switch to the 1/4 preset, the BPM doesn’t hold and goes decreases immediately.

  5. Avi says:

    Is it possible to still get the 1.33 firmware? I can’t seem to find it on this site.

  6. rick says:

    @Avi, we don’t have it available for download as that version had a few issues. If you’d like to install that version just email support and we can send it your way.

  7. Baggas says:

    Am I correct that the tap tempo will sync between Timeline and Mobius now, but that is not the same as Midi Clock out??

    If so, a general Midi clock out to use with other Midi devices would be a great addition, as per Zach D above.

  8. LRC says:

    Avi and Shaoewen, I’ve got the same issue. Back to 1.33 I go.

  9. rick says:

    @Baggas, The ability to sync up the TL and Mobius via MIDI is not the same as MIDI Clock. Thanks for the feedback though! I’ll pass that along! ๐Ÿ™‚

  10. rick says:

    @LRC, We’ve got a new version coming out very soon that should fix this. Stay tuned! ๐Ÿ™‚

  11. Johan says:

    Just tried this at band reheardsal today. In regards to the updated MIDI – I think this update is better, and I think you can do even better ๐Ÿ™‚

    What I would like is for the on/off state to be remembered in the channel config, same as all the other parameters. This is so that I can set for instance MIDI channel 1 to default to an on state, and MIDI channel 2 to default to an off state.

    A bit of background – I’m using MIDI to control the timeline and my amp. I would like to have my main lead tone with the Timeline on (MIDI Channel 3), but my main clean tone with the Timeline off (MIDI Channel 1) – as a default. But with the clean tone, I want to have the option of enabling the Timeline when I want so I want to have it loaded up with a nice delay that would suit the clean tone on MIDI channel 1.

  12. rick says:

    @Johan, thanks for the feedback! I’ll certainly pass it along! ๐Ÿ™‚

  13. David says:

    Hey, having the same issues as above – when I tap a tempo it changes (halves or doubles) when I switch presets, even when “global” tap is on for each preset. Tried going back to 1v42 but that didn’t solve it. Also, I can’t get midi dump to work.

  14. rick says:

    @David, Are you running on version 1.42b now? The global TAP per preset is fixed in that version. Have you actually set the TAP to be global or preset in the parameters menu? You also need to save the preset. Email us at support@strymon.net and we can continue to troubleshoot with you! ๐Ÿ™‚

  15. Jim says:

    Hi, have the above global/preset tap issues on this update that David, LRC, Avi and Shaowen are reffering to been sorted yet?

  16. ryan says:

    Hi- I think I’m wondering the same thing as Jim. I tried 1.42b about a month ago and the shaowen/avi tap tempo bug was present. Has this been fixed in 1.42b? Thanks.

  17. Andy says:

    Hi there!! Just updated to 1.42b last night, and I’ve got the same thing happening. I have two patches saved on Global, one dotted 8th and one quarter note, and the time gets lost when I switch between them. Any idea when this bug will be fixed?


  18. Baggas says:

    I had an idea for the Mobius and Timeline. Would it be possible to have a Global setting for the Expression pedal similar to the global/preset tap option. I’d love to set up my exp pedal to control the same parameter for all patches (eg mix) but find its a pain to have to individually go through and change this for each preset. Would be great to be able to setup one global expression pedal setting, but then have the option to be able to override that for individual presets if you wanted to. Something to consider perhaps? Cheers.

    • Nick Bradfield says:

      PLEASE give us the option to do that. It’s bizzare that they haven’t included this yet considering this is the most expensive pedal money can buy and I’ve got to spend hours to be able to rewrite each and every preset use expression pedals to control decay/mix.

  19. rick says:

    @Andy and @ryan, this bug has been fixed internally and we’re just wrapping up testing so hopefully we can have a new release very soon. Thanks for hanging in there with us! ๐Ÿ™‚

  20. rick says:

    @Baggas, thanks for the feedback! I’ll pass this on to our engineers! ๐Ÿ™‚

  21. Jonathan says:

    Rick, any progress on a release fixing the global tap per preset function? I am on 1.42b and having the same issues – anytime I change between patches that have tap subdivisions is when I notice the problem. Going from a “preset” patch to a “global” patch is always fine, and going from a “global” patch with no subdivision to a “global” patch WITH subdivision is fine, but going from global/subdivision to global/no subdiv. and global/subd to global/subd is when I’ve had problems with the delay time incorrect. Thanks!

  22. rick says:

    @Jonathan, I apologize for the delay in the release. I fell a bit behind with the release of the librarian software. The good news is that we have been testing it and it looks solid. I just want to burn it in a little more and hopefully we can have it out within the next few days. ๐Ÿ™‚

  23. Jonathan says:

    Thanks, Rick! Great to hear – I’ll be using my Timeline a lot for a summer camp gig in a couple weeks & that fix is very timely. You guys are fantastic!

  24. Zach D says:

    I had the same idea as @Baggas concerning a global expression pedal setting. I can’t quite remember if I emailed the support team though…So what he said.

    Also, I just wanted to say I really appreciate the Strymon team. I love your products, and appreciate your open ear to your customer’s feedback. You guys go above and beyond. ๐Ÿ™‚

  25. Jens A says:

    @rick. Any news on this? Just bought me a Timeline so I want use it’s latest soul…

  26. Joe Krueger says:

    Hey Rick, any news on when the new Firmware will be released to fix the bugs in 1.42b ?

  27. Carl says:

    Does the latest update v1.43 just released, have the option to turn the warble off when tapping new tempo on dBucket?

  28. rick says:

    @Carl, No it doesn’t. That’s really how a lot of analog bucket brigade style delays work so we wanted to stay true to that. I’ll pass your feedback on though! ๐Ÿ™‚

  29. ryan says:

    1.43 worked perfectly for me last night. the global tap/preset tempo thing is huge and the swell triggering is great. thanks a lot.

  30. Justin says:

    I think you guys may have forgotten to update the numbers and the date on the release notes. This latest version says, “Firmware Rev. 1.23 (Released February 2012)” but the Beta 1.43 was released June 2013…

    Looking forward to exploring the new features. Thanks!

  31. rick says:

    @Justin, we actually purposely place the current shipping version first in the list. If you scroll down just below it you should see the latest public beta version along with the release notes for it and the link to the download.

  32. rick says:

    @Justin, we actually purposely place the current shipping version first in the list. If you scroll down just below it you should see the latest public beta version along with the release notes for it and the link to the download.

  33. Kim says:

    Woould be cool too boost more than 3 db so you can turn the effect full wet whitout loosing amlitude.

  34. rick says:

    @Kim, thanks for the feedback! I’ll pass that along! ๐Ÿ™‚

  35. Danny says:

    Does version 1.42 not include the sending of a patch’s parameter setting out through MIDI when selecting a patch? I use TouchOSC to control and provide real-time feedback with the pedal and it seems like I cannot get the feedback of the parameter states anymore. Thank you

  36. rick says:

    @Danny, this feature was removed in version 1.42b and 1.43b as it was causing some problems for some other users. We’re exploring the possibility of re-implementing this in a future firmware update however.

  37. Aislan says:

    Hi, is possible in the next update of the Timeline, activate the channel A and channel B together?

  38. rick says:

    @Aislan, I’m not sure how possible that would be due to various things like DSP limitations etc. but I will certainly pass your feedback on to our engineers! ๐Ÿ™‚

  39. Jimmy says:

    I think the biggest win would be a global option to sync the taps between the timeline and mobius, preferably through midi. In other words tap on one, the other gets the tap. It is a pain to have to tap on both constantly, and unfortunately most bands don’t play to either click, sequencer, or track. Just my 2 cents.

  40. rick says:

    @Jimmy this actually works. Just connect a MIDI cable form the OUT of your Mobius to the IN of your TimeLine and the taps should sync up. ๐Ÿ™‚

  41. Anthony says:

    @rick. If I haven’t updated my TL since last year (1.2 something) do I need to perform all the updates in between or will this new omen cover all my bases? Thanks for the help.

  42. rick says:

    @Anthony, you can update straight to the latest version! No incremental updates needed here! ๐Ÿ™‚

  43. starscape says:

    Hi Strymons,

    thanks for the latest update. The Global Tap fix is a great help on the best delay I’ve ever had, as well as the new Killdry feature!
    Is there a chance to give Timeline’s looper a (midi-) pedal controlled feedback or decay function in the future, which is available in all modes (overdub, play, forwards, backwards, half speed, etc.)?

  44. Kyle says:

    My strymon timeline and mobius wont sync up tempo when tapped
    with MIDI clock sent from ableton it works fine, but when i dont use ableton, the taps dont sync between them.
    the timeline has 1.43 firmware

  45. Kyle says:

    i also noticed another problem with the global tempo setting that used to work but does not any longer
    when i tap in a tempo and then dial it in with the knob to get it exactly where i want it….when i switch settings it switches to the tempo programmed for that preset even though i have global tap set for all my presets
    i really bummed by these new updates…i can’t get even one pedal to be in time with itself for a whole song

  46. rick says:

    @Kyle, I believe we spoke via email today. The global tempo issue you are running into is normal behavior but try updating your Mobius to version 1.08 so see if it fixes your MIDI sync issue. Thanks! – Rick

  47. Mads says:

    A huge +1 for a midi clock out. Would be awesome to able to sync other midi stuff to the delay realtime.

  48. Luke says:

    I’m having trouble choosing different tempos for different presets. I have songs set to different delay times and need them to change to set tempos for each song. I’m new to the timeline can anyone help please?

    • Hugo says:

      @Luke – In each preset, go to the PARAMS menu and set the TAP parameter to PRESET. Then, set your tempo and SAVE the preset. You will need to do this for every preset you are using the TimeLine so that each preset is saved with its own tempo.

  49. Shive says:

    Agreed on the need for a controlled decay on the looper. This is a huge feature for anybody doing ambient looping. Love this thing otherwise.

  50. Caleb says:

    I’d like to throw my name in the “no warble on Dbucket tap tempo” hat with Carl. I understand that it is true to the way a Dbucket pedal works but you couldn’t tap tempo real Dbucket pedals and that’s why I got this!!! ๐Ÿ™‚ If you can teach my drummer to keep the same tempo for my solo as the intro then I wouldn’t need a change, ha! Seriously though we don’t play with a click so I have to tap in my delay times for U2ey things and it sounds horrible in the middle of a song to hear that warble when I have to adjust. I end up using other, less-cool, less authentic settings so I can tap in. In my mind it kind of defeats the purpose of staying true to the analog action if it becomes unusable. Wasn’t the lack of tap tempo a PROBLEM with analog delays anyway???! Nothing but love for you guys, it’s just my one pet-peeve for the best delay pedal I’ve ever owned ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Hugo says:

      @Caleb – Thanks for the feedback. As you already know, this is just the nature of the dBucket delay algorithms, but I will pass this along to our team.

  51. Grant says:

    why don’t you guys put the same midi features updated on the timeline in the Mobius? it would be nice to have it stay bypassed, and even better would be to be able to select it to be bypassed on a preset.. what would be extra special is to be able to use midi, or expression pedal to edit settings like the split of the time 1/4th, 1/2, 1/16 etc… i figure on the Mobius you can do this by assigning one of the knobs. but there is no way for the timeline, a ice way to speed up repeats etc, without necessarily moving out of time with the beat

    • Hugo says:

      @Grant – The Bypass setting on the Mobius is always Engaged when a preset is accessed via MIDI, as you know, but we hope to address this in a future update. Thanks for the feedback!

  52. Evan Carter says:

    Great piece of gear! But the swell mode, even when mixed to 100% wet, still sounds out the original attack of the strings, which seems to miss the point of the swell. Is there a tip I could get from you guys on how to fix this, or is this just a misunderstanding I have on how the swell settings should work? (All other machine modes eliminate the original attack when pushed to full mix…). Thanks in advance.

    • Hugo says:

      @Evan Carter – On the TimeLine, make sure to use the LEFT INPUT first when using a MONO signal chain. The dynamics for the SWELL mode are detected in the LEFT input, so you will still hear the dry signal pass without swelling if you are using the RIGHT INPUT first.

  53. Evan Carter says:

    Hugo. You are the man. And the firmware helped. Thanks. And I just got the big sky to go along with the timeline. What a pair!

  54. Jonathan says:

    As a multi strymon happy user (timline, mobius and now bigsky) the only thing i really waiting for is a midi beat clock send. I’m using a Boomerang III looper and a MPC for beats but as a guitarist before all, i would like to see my strymon’s and the top.

  55. Noah says:

    @Jonathan, I use a molten voltage tempode and a disater area DMC-6D with the Strymon Trinity and it works great for calling up presets amongst the devices and the Tempode injects midi clock which you can tap in for each program change and which syncs the Mobius and Timeline to the midi clock. You can also do this with a disaster area and a DAW like ableton. The sync is not always exact and they sometime fall out of sync after a period of time that is why the molten voltage is nice because you can do a stop or two and it will sync them back up.

  56. Arael says:

    Hi guys!

    Is there any way to hold-and-release the looper record button instead of pressing it?


    • Hugo says:

      @Arael – There is no hold-and-release features for the TimeLine’s looper I’m afraid. You would need to press the switches on the pedal to control the looper features.

  57. LOรฏc says:

    Hello Hugo and Strymon team .
    I really felt in love with the timeline, it is a fantastic piece of electronic and software .
    It sound so gooooood …
    +1 for a midiclock out on that box …. please please give it a thought !
    it would be so nice to sync ableton with the strymon ! or anything else with a midi in …
    Thank you for your work !

  58. Josh says:

    Why is it that when I use my ext tap pedal, it changes the presets on my timeline? It’s plugged into the exp jack on the back of the timeline

    • Hugo says:

      @Josh – Is this happening on a recently acquired or updated TimeLine pedal?ย  We recently released an update that added MultiSwitch compatibility that could be related to this.

      Our pedals require Tap switches that have a TRS connection where the TIP and RING are tied together and they short with the SLEEVE to send a tap signal.ย  The switch you have must have a floating ring connection which can cause this behavior in the new firmware (TimeLine 1.58, BigSky 1.23, and Mobius 1.15).

      With this latest firmware, we are using the in-between values of the expression jack’s voltage to be able to use the MultiSwitch for controlling the looper, banking up and down, and going up and down the presets as you are experiencing.ย  Prior to this new firmware, Tap switches with a floating ring could work sometimes, however, after this update it can start changing presets since it is sending a value that the TimeLine is interpreting to change presets.

      For third party switches, you can use a TS-to-TRS cable where the TIP and RING from the TRS connector are tied together to the TIP of the TS connector.ย  Then, connect the TRS side to the pedal and the TS side to the switch.ย  No resistor necessary for this short.ย  Our own Tap/Fav switch does this internally with a standard unmodified TRS cable.

  59. Fรฉlix says:

    Hi guys:
    Con I change the subdivisiones with an expression pedal?

    • Hugo says:

      @Fรฉlix – Thanks for checking out the blog! ๐Ÿ™‚ There is no way to control the Tap subdivisions with an expression pedal, however, you can control them via MIDI using MIDI CC# 21 with values 0-4.

  60. John says:

    Is it possible to have a Ignore MIDI clock parameter in each preset? I use MIDI to change patches and sync everything up, but there are some patches that I want to have super fast or super slow, and not sync to the rest of the midi clock stuff going on.


    • Hugo says:

      @John – In TimeLine’s current firmware 1.58, the MIDI Clock ON/OFF toggle is only available globally affecting all presets.

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